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Spirit of '76 05-01-2009 12:09 PM

Mosin Nagant users
 
Right, so I've been considering getting a Mosin and was wondering if current owners could shed some light on a first timer.

So, I'm not much on gun shows and such but I have been wondering if it is possible to get one for under $150, as claimed by gun show customers, by purchasing the parts separately?

My guess is that it may be possible, but since I'm out of my depth on this could you current users put together a list of what it would require and costs using a site like this or perhaps even better one that you have dealt with personally. I was thinking that putting in an ATI stock would keep costs lower, and may allow me to adsorb the recoil in a less painful manner. Thanks.

And possible scope specifications/requirements for up to 500-600 yards.

AOW 05-01-2009 12:12 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
I can't bring myself to believe that a complete Mosin with bayonet, strap, and oil kit thingamabob cannot be found for under $150. Look around more.

Abouthadit 05-01-2009 12:14 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
There should be no problem in finding an M-N for under a c note.
http://tiny.cc/mosin
J&G Sales

Spirit of '76 05-01-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Alternatives to this is what I seek. I'm well aware of the common nature of these guns being bought for $150 at gun shows. It is just that I wanted to know if it were possible to buy separately without having to go through the red tape while still maintaining the same cost. I have seen out of state dealers offering them for 140 +shipping and fees, but some refuse to ship to my state, I'm sure you can guess which.

Thanks, but that link times out. Could you post it directly?

FireMattMillen 05-01-2009 12:17 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
I got mine here:

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....04697dc4ba39c0

$90, plus about $20 for shipping, plus $15 for the background check.

Don't forget to buy a few of these:

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/1917

Spirit of '76 05-01-2009 12:22 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by FireMattMillen (Post 1703496)
I got mine here:

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....04697dc4ba39c0

$90, plus about $20 for shipping, plus $15 for the background check.

Don't forget to buy a few of these:

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/1917

Nice! I'll keep those in hand if this fails to materialize. Good stuff! Do you have a scope that can be used up to 500-600 yards?

Abouthadit 05-01-2009 12:25 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit of '76 (Post 1703494)
Alternatives to this is what I seek. I'm well aware of the common nature of these guns being bought for $150 at gun shows. It is just that I wanted to know if it were possible to buy separately without having to go through the red tape while still maintaining the same cost. I have seen out of state dealers offering them for 140 +shipping and fees, but some refuse to ship to my state, I'm sure you can guess which.

Thanks, but that link times out. Could you post it directly?

You can find it on http://jgsales.com/

JJ_ 05-01-2009 12:28 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit of '76 (Post 1703509)
Nice! I'll keep those in hand if this fails to materialize. Good stuff! Do you have a scope that can be used up to 500-600 yards?


Have you ever tried to shoot at that range before??


Walk before you run.

Agfinger 05-01-2009 12:34 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
You best bet for accuracy would be to get a used Finnish heavy barreled Mosin M39..MUCH more accurate than the 91/30 and a smoother action too. Most of these were accurized in the 1960's and were used by Finnish shooting teams in the Olympics in the early 1970's I believe...

I have a couple M39's that I bought when I had my FFL... At the time, they were on sale at Century at $33 each...That's right, 3 for $100 as "U-fix-ems"...Many had a small crack in the handguard or maybe a band was missing...Some were perfect and had nothing wrong with them...Absolutely the best of the best when it comes to MN rifles...They make the 91/30's look like junk.

I would think that over on Gunboards.com, you could find a private seller that had one for $150 or less.

Spirit of '76 05-01-2009 12:35 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
I shot a kraut mauser at 100-150 spot on 7 out 10, repeatedly but that was years ago. I guess I'm over extending myself. I just wanted feedback on the matter.

SLV>GLD 05-01-2009 12:37 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Many enthusiasts would strongly steer you away from modification.
There's nothing quite like having a piece of history with all matching part numbers, either.
Food for thought.

CrufflerJJ 05-01-2009 12:42 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Spirit of '76 (Post 1703481)
Right, so I've been considering getting a Mosin and was wondering if current owners could shed some light on a first timer.

So, I'm not much on gun shows and such but I have been wondering if it is possible to get one for under $150, as claimed by gun show customers, by purchasing the parts separately?

My guess is that it may be possible, but since I'm out of my depth on this could you current users put together a list of what it would require and costs using a site like this or perhaps even better one that you have dealt with personally. I was thinking that putting in an ATI stock would keep costs lower, and may allow me to adsorb the recoil in a less painful manner. Thanks.

And possible scope specifications/requirements for up to 500-600 yards.

How would "putting in an ATI stock" keep costs lower than buying a regular MN91/30 in a wood stock?

If cost is a concern, get a MN91/30 rifle, a slip-on recoil absorbing pad (at your local sporting goods shop). If you scope a run-of-the mill MN91/30 and hope to have reasonable accuracy at 500-600 yards, using mil-surplus ammo, you will be disappointed. Yes, a trained operator with a scoped MN91/30PU can get torso hits at that distance.

You can get a MN91/30, add a "scope mount" (replaces the rear sight ladder), a long eye relief low power scope, and have something that would probably do the job at 100-200 yards. Of course, using iron sights you should also be able to do that. Spend a few hundred $$$ on ammo, and practice - that might serve you better than kludging together a scoped MN91/30.

If you're honestly thinking about using an off-the-shelf MN rifle for distance work, learn to reload.

Rather than playing "lets build an imitation sniper rifle", you might also consider getting a Remington 700 Varmint or a Savage rifle (heavy barrel, synthetic stock) in .308. Spend some more $$$ for a mount & set of rings, plus a decent scope. That will probably run you $1000-1200 or thereabouts.

If avoiding "red tape" is high on your list, you'll probably need to do a face-to-face deal with somebody wanting to sell a rifle.

negative1 05-01-2009 12:43 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
I can't bring myself to pay that much after getting them for $49 (round receiver) and $59 (hex receiver). Dunham's was great and you could handpick the best ones. 2007 was a good year but those days are long gone.

I guess if you didn't get them back then it's still not a bad deal at $100. :s1:

Spirit of '76 05-01-2009 12:50 PM

Re: Mosin Nagant users
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CrufflerJJ (Post 1703539)
How would "putting in an ATI stock" keep costs lower than buying a regular MN91/30 in a wood stock?

If cost is a concern, get a MN91/30 rifle, a slip-on recoil absorbing pad (at your local sporting goods shop). If you scope a run-of-the mill MN91/30 and hope to have reasonable accuracy at 500-600 yards, using mil-surplus ammo, you will be disappointed. Yes, a trained operator with a scoped MN91/30PU can get torso hits at that distance.

You can get a MN91/30, add a "scope mount" (replaces the rear sight ladder), a long eye relief low power scope, and have something that would probably do the job at 100-200 yards. Of course, using iron sights you should also be able to do that. Spend a few hundred $$$ on ammo, and practice - that might serve you better than kludging together a scoped MN91/30.

If you're honestly thinking about using an off-the-shelf MN rifle for distance work, learn to reload.

Rather than playing "lets build an imitation sniper rifle", you might also consider getting a Remington 700 Varmint or a Savage rifle (heavy barrel, synthetic stock) in .308. Spend some more $$$ for a mount & set of rings, plus a decent scope. That will probably run you $1000-1200 or thereabouts.

If avoiding "red tape" is high on your list, you'll probably need to do a face-to-face deal with somebody wanting to sell a rifle.

Well thank you for your insight, all of you, as I said I'm out of my depth, but if I had that kind of money I would call Serbu and place an order for a BMG. I'm just trying to keep costs at a level at which I can sell off some silver, or barter if possible, and not be set back.

I prolonged obtaining fire arms, and now I'm trying to make up for lost with limited funds and knowledge.

Quote:

Originally Posted by negative1 (Post 1703544)
I can't bring myself to pay that much after getting them for $49 (round receiver) and $59 (hex receiver). Dunham's was great and you could handpick the best ones. 2007 was a good year but those days are long gone.

I guess if you didn't get them back then it's still not a bad deal at $100. :s1:

Share the wealth? (In a non-socialist tone, mind you.)


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